Guest: Kyle Kensing
Presenter: Neal Howard
Overview: Kyle Kensing, Online Content Editor of CareerCast.com, joins Neal Howard on Talkers.FM to talk about the BEST and WORST Jobs of 2018 and their criteria for evaluating jobs.
Kyle Kensing is an Online Content Editor in CareerCast.com. CareerCast.com is an online career site for finding the targeted job opportunities by industry, function, and location. The site offers opportunities from the United States and Canadian newspaper, magazine, association, niche and TV station websites.
Neal Howard: Welcome to Talkers Business Radio. I’m your host Neal Howard, thank you for joining us. I’m in conversation today with Mr. Kyle Kensing and he’s going to talk with us about some of the best and worst job of this year and possibly, coming years. Welcome to the program Kyle, how are you?
Kyle Kensing: I’m well, thank you for having me.
Neal: Great. Glad that you took the time and joined us today. I understand that you are an Online Content Editor for CareerCast. Tell us about that.
Kyle: Yes. So careercast.com, we are job-search news and information website as well as a portal for job listings so if you’re on the market or considering being in the market for jobs, you can find listings at careercast.com as well as news on the job market with our CareerCast editorials we try oversee.
Neal: Well everybody knows a job is a great thing to have you know, if you like to eat. How do you rank the best and worst jobs? What criteria makes a job good or bad?
Kyle: Yes. So when you evaluate jobs, you have to have as many consistent sort of criteria that you look at, exactly they’re vary too much from career to career especially when you look at once as different as those that we have on 220,000 best and worst jobs of 2018. So we look at our pay job outlook which is the forecast for hiring over the next decade, we look at stress levels and we look at the environmental conditions, so that’s like the kind of atmosphere you’re working in, are you working with hazardous materials, things of that nature. And so those are the core criteria that are going to apply no matter what your line of work is.
Neal: Do you think that a job that becomes outdated is actually now a bad job or can it be a decent job for someone depending on their situation?
Kyle: It really does depend on situation because sometimes, a job can become outdated from the standpoint that there’s just less demand for it but the demand is, one example, in this report, newspaper reporter is typically ranked near the bottom every year that we do our jobs rated Top 220. And one reason for that is the fact that it hasn’t declining so dramatically in the past decade perhaps or so. But if you are a newspaper reporter at say at place with the Washington Post or New York Times, Los Angeles Times and you’re entrenched there, that can be a really great job from that standpoint as far as you’re still getting paid, you still kind of work in a high profile field and so a really important field as well – local news, national news, it is really vital to our society. So it’s still a good job from that standpoint. It’s just difficult to get started in the field and to find opportunities.
Neal: What would you say I guess maybe the “bottom three jobs” that have become outdated over the past say, 30 years or so?
Kyle: So as far as ones that have become outdated since we first started doing this report because this goes back actually about 1988 was when the first when run as a printed edition. We’ve seen things why automobile engine manufacturing has been really steep the client which actually began in the 1980s and has really kind of come home to roost over the 90s. And to today, that’s one watch repair as one that’s been negatively impact over the last 30 years. So we think of the proliferation of like smartphones for example, fewer people need watches, fewer people need repairs to watches as a result of that and another interesting one is taxi driver which is actually our number 220 job for 2018. And that has seen steep declines in hiring outlook as a result of ride sharing apps, again getting popular. Yes Uber and Lift have really infiltrated that market. But then in the last 30 years too, some other interesting ones that we used to look at something like a bookbinder, musical instrument repair, plasterer. These are jobs that we no longer even track because they have become so archaic.
Neal: What are some jobs that have been added to this jobs rated report recently?
Kyle: Some of the newer ones include biomedical engineer, compliance officer which is working with the HR department and the personnels. Information security analyst which we’re seeing a lot of attention in the news lately the things like the Equifax breach, so many hacks, Target, things like a couple years, social media managers and sustainability managers which work as far as ecological demands and shares as far as businesses go trying to be more green which we actually have a recent study at careercast.com about green jobs and sustainability manager is one of those.
Neal: With the changing trends in the environment, the economy and world outlook, I understand that genetic counselor is rated among the best of jobs and we all see genealogy is all the rage. But I was on the impression that you could go online, do it yourself and have those results. What is it about genetic counseling that makes it such an in demand position?
Kyle: Actually, genetic counselor is our number 1 job this year and it was a brand new to the jobs career port. What makes that a great job is the fact that it has a growth outlook at 29% over the next decade which is really substantial. Great pay with the median at about $80,000 a year. And the reason that you can’t necessarily just go online and do that, it’s the same reason that we have access to something like WebMD for example. But you can go and read all your symptoms might be and give yourself a mis-diagnosis because the specialization that the doctor has is so far, so much further advanced than the layman has. And it’s the same thing with genetic counselors, this are people who are specially trained, the minimum qualification is a Master’s degree. These are people that are highly specialized, really know what they are doing and they can really give the most professional and the most accurate sort of advice, certainly more so than a web app or a website.
Neal: We’ve talked about poor outlook as far as well, taxi drivers, newspaper reporter, you mentioned that as well but you also talked about how they could be a good thing in certain circumstances. Is low pay kind of the glaring factor when it comes to a job being a best or worst job or is that maybe the least common denominator in a job being a bad one?
Kyle: Among our bottom 10 for 2018, low pay is certainly a recurring theme because you see the taxi driver there, the median salary is around 24,000, newspaper reporters under 38,000, retail salesperson is under 23,000. So these are really low salaries. So that is the unifying theme, but it’s not necessarily the top team because a lot of these jobs as well also face really stressful work environments. Something like a newspaper reporter when you working in the public eye have consistent really tight deadlines and then the environmental conditions as well for something like enlisted military personality of facing dangerous conditions as part of your work environment say it was like a pest control worker where you’re having to deal with poisonous chemicals, potentially dangerous situations removing like a hornet’s nest, that kind of thing. So even though little pay is kind of a unifying theme among these bottom jobs, stress and environment are as well.
Neal: As a career writer and an employment writer, would you say that the job outlook is swinging more towards skills as a draw as opposed to credentials? Are we still in that, “you need a degree” phase?
Kyle: If you have a college degree, you’re certainly going to be further ahead. And there’s a lot of talk recently especially in the recession era and beyond that a college degree is a golden ticket to a job the way that it was before the recession and that’s certainly true but you’re going to be much better off with that advanced education. And the same is true if you’re giving them to a skills trade, if you go through the vocational school process, you’re gonna have a leg up as opposed to somebody who just have a high school diploma. So even if you did not necessarily go to college, the vocational job route is still a great way of getting started on your career because you can always go to college later in life if you choose to switch fields especially now with the proliferation of online programs from accredited universities. So there’s still those opportunities even after you get started in the workforce but having that education is still going to give you a leg up.
Neal: In wrapping up Kyle, let’s talk briefly about internships. Are they a good thing or a bad thing as far as finding out where you fit in in the job market or are they a waste of time?
Kyle: It’s a great question because they certainly can be beneficial, they can be a nice thing on the resumes. But it’s one of those things too that not everybody can necessarily deal with. If it’s an unpaid internship, that can be a really difficult thing for a young job seeker, they need to get a job that pays instead of an internship within their field of study. I think that having work experience and excelling in your work experience is just as valuable as having an internship. The internship can be nice on your resume but really so much of getting started is having great references as opposed to necessarily what your title is because an internship, you’ll joke about being a coffee getter can certainly hold some weight. Sometimes, companies have interns that aren’t necessarily doing that much pertinent to the profession itself. So having a line of work or a part time job where you have responsibility and you excel at it and you get great references, I think you can go just as far as having an internship.
Neal: Well obviously, CareerCast is a place where we can go and find out more?
Kyle: Yes. You can follow CareerCast on Twitter, that’s @CareerCast and CareerCast on Facebook as well, that’s on facebook.com/careercast and careercast.com for all you job market news and job listings as well.
Neal: Great. Kyle, it’s been a pleasure. Thank you for joining us today and I’m hoping to talk to you in the future.
Kyle: Sounds great. Thank you again for having me.
Neal: I’m your host Neal Howard in conversation with Kyle Kensing, Online Content Editor at careercast.com. Transcripts and audio of this program are available at Talkers.fm. You can subscribe to this podcast on iTunes, listen in and download at SoundCloud.